The Application Security Podcast
Chris Romeo and Robert Hurlbut dig into the tips, tricks, projects, and tactics that make various application security professionals successful. They cover all facets of application security, from threat modeling and OWASP to DevOps+security and security champions. They approach these stories in an educational light, explaining the details in a way those new to the discipline can understand. Chris Romeo is the CEO of Devici and a General Partner at Kerr Ventures, and Robert Hurlbut is a Principal Application Security Architect focused on Threat Modeling at Aquia.
Episodes
276 episodes
Matin Mavaddat - Understanding Security as a Systemic Concern: The Role of Anti-Requirements
Matin Mavaddat discusses his perspective on security as a systemic concern, developed from his background in requirements engineering and systems architecture. He introduces the concept of "anti-requirements" - defining what a system should not...
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Season 11
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Episode 28
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50:20
Kayra Otaner -- DevSecOps
Kayra Otaner joins the podcast today to discuss DevSecOps and answer the question, is it dead? Kayra is the Director of DevSecOps at Roche and is highly involved in the DevSecOps community. Kayra states that DevSecOps in its traditional form is...
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Season 11
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Episode 27
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32:46
François Proulx - Arbitrary Code Execution 0-day in Build Pipeline of Popular Open Source Packages
François Proulx shares his discovery of security vulnerabilities in build pipelines. Francois has found that attackers can exploit this often overlooked side of the software supply chain. To help address this, his team developed an open source ...
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Season 11
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Episode 26
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45:31
Steve Wilson -- The Developer's Playbook for Large Language Model Security: Building Secure AI Applications
Steve Wilson, the author of 'The Developer's Playbook for Large Language Model Security’ is back to dive into topics from his book like AI hallucinations, trust, and the future of AI. Steve has been at the forefront of the explosion of ac...
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Season 11
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Episode 24
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36:32
Jeff Williams -- Application Detection & Response (ADR)
Jeff Williams, a renowned pioneer in the field of application security is with us to discuss Application Detection and Response (ADR), detailing its potential to revolutionize security in production environments. Jeff shares stories from his ca...
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Season 11
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Episode 23
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51:28
Phillip Wylie -- Pen Testing from Somebody who Knows about Pen Testing
Philip Wiley shares his unique journey from professional wrestling to being a renowned pen tester. We define pen testing and the role of social engineering in ethical hacking. We talk tools of the trade, share a favorite web app pentest hack an...
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Season 11
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Episode 22
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52:08
Steve Springett -- Software and System Transparency
Steve Springett, an expert in secure software development and a key figure in several OWASP projects is back. Steve unpacks CycloneDX and the value proposition of various BOMs. He gives us a rundown of the BOM landscape and unveils some new BOM...
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Season 11
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Episode 21
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48:13
Irfaan Santoe -- The Power of Strategy in AppSec
Irfaan Santoe joins us for an in-depth discussion on the power of strategy in Application Security. We delve into measuring AppSec maturity, return on investment, and communicating technical needs to business leaders. Irfaan shares his unique j...
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Season 11
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Episode 20
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40:14
Andrew Van Der Stock -- The New OWASP Top Ten
Andrew Van Der Stok, a leading web application security specialist and executive director at OWASP joins us for this episode. We discuss the latest with the OWASP Top 10 Project, the importance of data collection, and the need for developer eng...
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Season 11
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Episode 19
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51:51
Derek Fisher -- Hiring in Cyber/AppSec
Derek Fisher, an expert in hardware, software, and cybersecurity with over 25 years of experience is back on the podcast. Derek shares his advice on cybersecurity hiring, specifically in application security, and dives into the challenges of en...
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Season 11
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Episode 18
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1:01:45
Tanya Janca -- Secure Guardrails
Tanya Janka, also known as SheHacksPurple, discusses secure guardrails, the difference between guardrails and paved roads, and how to implement both in application security. Tanya is an award-winning public speaker and head of education at SEMG...
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Season 11
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Episode 17
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1:04:50
Jahanzeb Farooq -- Launching and executing an AppSec program
Jahanzeb Farooq discusses his journey in cybersecurity and the challenges of building AppSec programs from scratch. Jahanzeb shares his experience working in various industries, including Siemens, Novo Nordisk, and Danske Bank, highlighting the...
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Season 11
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Episode 16
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49:44
David Quisenberry -- Building Security, People, and Programs
David Quisenberry shares about his journey into the security world, insights on building AppSec programs in small to mid-sized companies, and the importance of data-driven decision-making. The conversation delves into the value of mentoring and...
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Season 11
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Episode 15
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56:54
Matt Rose -- Software Supply Chain Security Means Many Different Things to Different People
Matt Rose, an experienced technical AppSec testing leader discusses his career journey and significant contributions in AppSec. The conversation delves into the nuances of software supply chain security and exploring how different perceptions a...
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Season 11
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Episode 14
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46:14
James Berthoty -- Is DAST Dead? And the future of API security
James Berthoty, a cloud security engineer with a diverse IT background, discusses his journey into application and product security. James highlights his career trajectory from IT operations to cloud security, his experiences with security tool...
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Season 11
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Episode 13
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44:56
Mark Curphey and Simon Bennetts -- Riding the Coat Tails of ZAP, without Open Source Funding
Mark Curphey and Simon Bennetts, join Chris on the podcast to discuss the challenges of funding and sustaining major open source security projects like ZAP. Curphey shares about going fully independent and building a non-profit sust...
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Season 11
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Episode 12
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42:32
Devin Rudnicki -- Expanding AppSec
Devon Rudnicki, the Chief Information Security Officer at Fitch Group, shares her journey of developing an application security program from scratch and advancing to the CISO role. She emphasizes the importance of collaboration, understanding t...
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Season 11
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Episode 11
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35:57
Dustin Lehr -- Culture Change through Champions and Gamification
Dustin Lehr, Senior Director of Platform Security/Deputy CISO at Fivetran and Chief Solutions Officer at Katilyst Security, joins Robert and Chris to discuss security champions. Dustin explains the concept of security champions within the devel...
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Season 11
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Episode 10
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45:10
Francesco Cipollone -- Application Security Posture Management and the Power of Working with the Business
Francesco Cipollone, CEO of Phoenix Security, joins Chris and Robert to discuss security and explain Application Security Posture Management (ASPM). Francesco shares his journey from developer to cybersecurity leader, revealing the origins and ...
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Season 11
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Episode 9
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38:11
Mukund Sarma -- Developer Tools that Solve Security Problems
Mukund Sarma, the Senior Director for Product Security at Chime, talks with Chris about his career path from being a software engineer to becoming a leader in application security. He explains how he focuses on building security tools that are ...
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Season 11
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Episode 8
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46:32
Meghan Jacquot -- Assumed Breach Red Team Engagements for AppSec
AppSec specialist Megan Jacquot joins Chris and Robert for a compelling conversation about community, career paths, and productive red team exercises. Megan shares her unique cybersecurity origin story, tracing her interest in the field from ch...
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Season 11
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Episode 7
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40:55
Bill Sempf -- Development, Security, and Teaching the Next Generation
Robert is joined by Bill Sempf, an application security architect with over 20 years of experience in software development and security. Bill shares his security origins as a curious child immersed in technology, leading to his lifelong dedicat...
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Season 11
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Episode 6
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39:44
Hendrik Ewerlin -- Threat Modeling of Threat Modeling
Robert and Chris talk with Hendrik Ewerlin, a threat modeling advocate and trainer. Hendrik believes you can threat model anything, and he recently applied threat modeling to the process of threat modeling itself. His conclusions are published ...
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Season 11
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Episode 5
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33:50
Jason Nelson -- Three Pillars of Threat Modeling Success: Consistency, Repeatability, and Efficacy
Jason Nelson, an accomplished expert in information security management, joins Chris to share insights on establishing successful threat modeling programs in data-intensive industries like finance and healthcare. Jason presents his three main p...
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Season 11
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Episode 4
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53:52
Erik Cabetas -- Cracking Codes on Screen and in Contests: An Expert's View on Hacking, Vulnerabilities, and the Evolution of Cybersecurity Language
Erik Cabetas joins Robert and Chris for a thought-provoking discussion about modern software security. They talk about the current state of vulnerabilities, the role of memory-safe languages in AppSec, and why IncludeSec takes a highly systemat...
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Season 11
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Episode 3
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51:12